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		<title>by: Trader</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-38763</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@ Martijn, your ideal world is called link-bait :) Though that takes time.. 

Links aren't the first things you need, you can also do it the other way around: 

Make more out of your visitor then 0.03 ct a visit (affiliate marketing)-&#62; Buy traffic through adwords -&#62; get discovered -&#62; stop buying traffic and make a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Martijn, your ideal world is called link-bait :) Though that takes time.. </p>
<p>Links aren&#8217;t the first things you need, you can also do it the other way around: </p>
<p>Make more out of your visitor then 0.03 ct a visit (affiliate marketing)-&gt; Buy traffic through adwords -&gt; get discovered -&gt; stop buying traffic and make a living.
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		<title>by: martijn</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-37685</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Amit: in an ideal world that would work...but first you need to be discovered to get thoose links. 

So you need links form other websites ---&#62; to get noticed/discovered  ---&#62; great content will attract more links --&#62; resulting in higher rankings ---&#62; more visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amit: in an ideal world that would work&#8230;but first you need to be discovered to get thoose links. </p>
<p>So you need links form other websites &#8212;&gt; to get noticed/discovered  &#8212;&gt; great content will attract more links &#8211;&gt; resulting in higher rankings &#8212;&gt; more visitors.
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		<title>by: Amit Verma</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-37014</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Even, why hiring a SEO company or a link builder, if you have a website which is useful to your visitor, then people will automatically give you the link.

What you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even, why hiring a SEO company or a link builder, if you have a website which is useful to your visitor, then people will automatically give you the link.</p>
<p>What you think?
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		<title>by: Vondel Vastgoed</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-36254</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hiring link builders is tricky, but you should keep full controll yourself.

It is best to get the link builders as an intern or as temp. This way they work from your office and you can instruct them anyway you want. If needed they can even use your company email address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring link builders is tricky, but you should keep full controll yourself.</p>
<p>It is best to get the link builders as an intern or as temp. This way they work from your office and you can instruct them anyway you want. If needed they can even use your company email address.
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		<title>by: Professional Web Design &#124; Flash Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-33680</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hiring people to do SEO is kind of tricky.

You can get your site banned  in no time if you hire a  SEO rookie.

I would not hire a SEO man ever.

Wasted money on him + wasted money in buying the domain. What's the point. Nothing to win here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring people to do SEO is kind of tricky.</p>
<p>You can get your site banned  in no time if you hire a  SEO rookie.</p>
<p>I would not hire a SEO man ever.</p>
<p>Wasted money on him + wasted money in buying the domain. What&#8217;s the point. Nothing to win here
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		<title>by: Peter van der Graaf</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-24752</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The way I do it is with strict rules on acquiring the links. The students get paid per hour, but they can get a higher hourly rate if their successrate increases. All the preparation for these link requests is done by somebody I educated and trust. My main advice is to use somebody you can trust to do the link verification and administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I do it is with strict rules on acquiring the links. The students get paid per hour, but they can get a higher hourly rate if their successrate increases. All the preparation for these link requests is done by somebody I educated and trust. My main advice is to use somebody you can trust to do the link verification and administration.
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		<title>by: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-24503</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not sure I'd trust farming out link building to anyone, especially when the motivator is on a commission basis. It seems like a good way to get a penalty. What I've been seeing lately is linkbaiting by making controversial postings, such as blind items. Makes one wonder their true intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d trust farming out link building to anyone, especially when the motivator is on a commission basis. It seems like a good way to get a penalty. What I&#8217;ve been seeing lately is linkbaiting by making controversial postings, such as blind items. Makes one wonder their true intentions.
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		<title>by: SEO Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-23085</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just don't go for buying or selling links. Google can detect the link buying now. Go for ethical and relevant link building as neuroseoservices.com is offering to their client. Its affordable and ethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t go for buying or selling links. Google can detect the link buying now. Go for ethical and relevant link building as neuroseoservices.com is offering to their client. Its affordable and ethical.
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		<title>by: Mary Gonzales</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-14375</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you're looking for cheap linkbuilding services, you can try My Agent of Value www.myagentofvalue.com. The company, Agents of Value, not only offers linkbuilding services but also has webmasters, programmers, graphic designers, all of which you can hire for a long-term project. The rates are fixed monthly, no matter what projects you want done (the rates vary according to their position). 

Agents of Value isn't Indian or Dutch. It's a company based in Philippines, and Filipinos are as skilled in English communications and internet marketing as Indians and Dutch are. It's really worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for cheap linkbuilding services, you can try My Agent of Value <a href='http://www.myagentofvalue.com.' >www.myagentofvalue.com.</a> The company, Agents of Value, not only offers linkbuilding services but also has webmasters, programmers, graphic designers, all of which you can hire for a long-term project. The rates are fixed monthly, no matter what projects you want done (the rates vary according to their position). </p>
<p>Agents of Value isn&#8217;t Indian or Dutch. It&#8217;s a company based in Philippines, and Filipinos are as skilled in English communications and internet marketing as Indians and Dutch are. It&#8217;s really worth it!
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		<title>by: Peter van der Graaf</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-9169</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Price depends on what you are willing to do yourself (the preparations). In India you can get both cheap and expensive labour. If you just leave the sending of personalized emails to indians, you can hire any company or student job agency and get it cheap. If you're not willing to put the extra effort in yourself, you will have to hire indian specialized companies and probably pay 5-10$ per link (for instance: &lt;a href="http://www.theseoworld.com/one_way_link_building.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.theseoworld.com/one_way_link_building.html&lt;/a&gt; is about 5$ per pr2 link).

Just don't focus too much on PR. More important: You should have a varied link profile from all walks of life. With any anchor text, any PR, any TrustRank and age, and steadily build up over time. With linkbuilding services under 5$ you are more likely to get links just from a link network that can be easily detected by search engines. And even a PR 5 site marked as part of that network can't pass much linkjuice to you.

In linkbuilding, cheap can mean short lived, so make sure the link sources aren't overmilked cows that can be penalized any moment.

This is also my warning to linkbuilding services: Don't overmilk your cows! Offer link request services in stead of links from your own websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Price depends on what you are willing to do yourself (the preparations). In India you can get both cheap and expensive labour. If you just leave the sending of personalized emails to indians, you can hire any company or student job agency and get it cheap. If you&#8217;re not willing to put the extra effort in yourself, you will have to hire indian specialized companies and probably pay 5-10$ per link (for instance: <a href="http://www.theseoworld.com/one_way_link_building.html" target="_blank" >http://www.theseoworld.com/one_way_link_building.html</a> is about 5$ per pr2 link).</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t focus too much on PR. More important: You should have a varied link profile from all walks of life. With any anchor text, any PR, any TrustRank and age, and steadily build up over time. With linkbuilding services under 5$ you are more likely to get links just from a link network that can be easily detected by search engines. And even a PR 5 site marked as part of that network can&#8217;t pass much linkjuice to you.</p>
<p>In linkbuilding, cheap can mean short lived, so make sure the link sources aren&#8217;t overmilked cows that can be penalized any moment.</p>
<p>This is also my warning to linkbuilding services: Don&#8217;t overmilk your cows! Offer link request services in stead of links from your own websites.
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		<title>by: Demasculation</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-9153</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good article, but you could have mentioned where we can find these cheap link workers, the ones I am finding charge a FORTUNE! I am talking $8 for a p2 link, unbelivable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, but you could have mentioned where we can find these cheap link workers, the ones I am finding charge a FORTUNE! I am talking $8 for a p2 link, unbelivable!
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		<title>by: Todd Harrison - LA Headshot Photography</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-8835</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good point. I like how you use local people to link build in other countries. or giving them credit for every link they can create. this sounds like a great idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I like how you use local people to link build in other countries. or giving them credit for every link they can create. this sounds like a great idea!
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		<title>by: martijn</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-8526</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's very time-consuming, but the requests and contacts are very important (so many nuances and variables) that I would prefer them to do them personally. 

From here on it's the art of the deal, you try to het them as cheap as possible from webmasters who want to sell you links, preferbly *only* me :)
Here lies the next problem, you don't want them out of the 'link-market', -besides artificial pumped sites- lots of linksellers want to sell as much as possible and aren't really selective who they sell to etc. That doesn't make it any eassier.

In the end, it's very time-consuming and sometimes boring work, most of the people want to do as less as possible, it's going for the extra mile that gives you the advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very time-consuming, but the requests and contacts are very important (so many nuances and variables) that I would prefer them to do them personally. </p>
<p>From here on it&#8217;s the art of the deal, you try to het them as cheap as possible from webmasters who want to sell you links, preferbly *only* me :)<br />
Here lies the next problem, you don&#8217;t want them out of the &#8216;link-market&#8217;, -besides artificial pumped sites- lots of linksellers want to sell as much as possible and aren&#8217;t really selective who they sell to etc. That doesn&#8217;t make it any eassier.</p>
<p>In the end, it&#8217;s very time-consuming and sometimes boring work, most of the people want to do as less as possible, it&#8217;s going for the extra mile that gives you the advantage.
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		<title>by: Peter van der Graaf</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-8522</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You're absolutely right Martijn. You need quality links.

That is why I do the discovery part myself and even most other parts. But email requests and contact is something time-consuming. Research on a website owner to get the email personalized just right is also something that can become expensive if you do it yourself. Hire the right skills, but try to minimize the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right Martijn. You need quality links.</p>
<p>That is why I do the discovery part myself and even most other parts. But email requests and contact is something time-consuming. Research on a website owner to get the email personalized just right is also something that can become expensive if you do it yourself. Hire the right skills, but try to minimize the cost.
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		<title>by: martijn</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-8516</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Link Building isn't that difficult, you can automate part of the proces (discovery), but it stays labour-intensive.
Offcourse there're shortcuts: buy bulk or non-relevant links.
Then you come with the dilemma: "everything what you do now is on you're record for tomorrow, Google has an indefinite memory capacity to store the history of you're website and I believe they (will) use that data.
Read about it in '&lt;a href="http://www.seomoz.org/article/google-historical-data-patent"&gt;Information Retrieval Based on Historical Data&lt;/a&gt;'.

There are different angles you can play the game, but I would stay away from 'as cheap as possible (volume)' you don't need thousand of links to get results. 
Go for the right kinda links (hubs and authorities) and you get some bonuspoints for that; you're in the right 'neighbourhood' and they're much harder to emulate by you're competition.

So if you serieus hire an professional, their experience and finesse will be a great investment for the future of the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link Building isn&#8217;t that difficult, you can automate part of the proces (discovery), but it stays labour-intensive.<br />
Offcourse there&#8217;re shortcuts: buy bulk or non-relevant links.<br />
Then you come with the dilemma: &#8220;everything what you do now is on you&#8217;re record for tomorrow, Google has an indefinite memory capacity to store the history of you&#8217;re website and I believe they (will) use that data.<br />
Read about it in &#8216;<a href="http://www.seomoz.org/article/google-historical-data-patent">Information Retrieval Based on Historical Data</a>&#8216;.</p>
<p>There are different angles you can play the game, but I would stay away from &#8216;as cheap as possible (volume)&#8217; you don&#8217;t need thousand of links to get results.<br />
Go for the right kinda links (hubs and authorities) and you get some bonuspoints for that; you&#8217;re in the right &#8216;neighbourhood&#8217; and they&#8217;re much harder to emulate by you&#8217;re competition.</p>
<p>So if you serieus hire an professional, their experience and finesse will be a great investment for the future of the website.
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		<title>by: Peter van der Graaf</title>
		<link>http://www.vdgraaf.info/hiring-link-builders.html#comment-8499</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;For my Dutch readers here are a few partners to check:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://m4m.nl/"&gt;M4M&lt;/a&gt; for link building, buying and negotiation services.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.linkbuilder.nl/"&gt;Linkbuilder.nl&lt;/a&gt; for using housewives to request links.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.studentenwerk.nl/Bedrijven/"&gt;Studentenwerk&lt;/a&gt; for cheap student linkbuilders.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my Dutch readers here are a few partners to check:</p>
<p><a href="http://m4m.nl/">M4M</a> for link building, buying and negotiation services.<br />
<a href="http://www.linkbuilder.nl/">Linkbuilder.nl</a> for using housewives to request links.<br />
<a href="http://www.studentenwerk.nl/Bedrijven/">Studentenwerk</a> for cheap student linkbuilders.</p>
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